Evidence for Ernest "Fat Ernie" Wright

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PRELIMIARY MATTERS OUT OF THE WAY, I WILL CALL MY FIRST WITNESS THIS AFTERNOON, ERNEST WRIGHT.

THE COURT : DO WE HAVE ANY NEED FOR SEQESTRATION?

MS GODFREY: I WOULD REQUEST IT, YOUR HONOR. I DON’T WANT TO GET INTO A WHERE I COULD MAKE THAT REPRESENTATION THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER WITNESSESS HERE.

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT, FINE

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DEFEBDANT’S EVIDENCE

 

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ERNEST WRIGHT, HAVING BEEN DULY SWORN, TESTIFIED AS FOLLOWS:

DIRECT EXAMINATION:

BY MR. STRUTIN:

Q. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR WRIGHT. COULD YOU TELL US WHERE YOU WERE RESIDING IN AUGUST OF 1982?

A. 1012 A OLIVE PLACE

Q. IS THAT PART OF THE RICHARD ALLEN HOUSING PROJECT IN THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA?

A. YES, IT IS.

Q. HOW LONG WERE YOU A RESIDENT OF THAT HOUSING PROJECT AS OF AUSGUST, 1982?

A. THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST 30 YEARS.

Q. IN AUGUST OF 1982, WERE YOU OR DID YOU KOW AN INDIVIDUAL BY THE NAME OF SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS?

A. YES, I DID

Q. AND HOW IS IT THAT YOU KNEW SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS?

\A. AN OLD SINGING PARTNER OF MINE.

Q. IF YOU WOULD JUST EXPLAIN IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS TO YOUR RELATIONSHIP OR KNOWLEDGE OF SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS?

A. WELL, I SANG WITH HIM POSSOBILY ABOUT 16 YEARS STRIAGHT.

Q. WERE YOU ALLILIATED WITH MR WILLIAMS IN ANY PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION--

A. YES, WE HAD A GROPU CALL POOR BOYS.

Q. WHAT KIND OF GROUP WAS THAT?

A. A SINGING GROUP.

Q. WERE THERE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GROUP BESIDES YOURSELF AND MR. WILLIAMS

A. YES ,THERE WERE.

Q. HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. WILLIAMS?

A. ME AND HIM ALWAYS BEEN COOL.

Q. WERE YOU SOCIAL FRIENDS, BUSINESS FRIENDS--

A. SOCIAL FRIENDS

Q. WAS THERE ANY KIND OF DISPUTE OR BAD BLOOD BETWEEN YOURSELF AND MR. WILLIAMS?

A. WE NEVER HAD NO PROBLEM.

Q. AND THAT WAS IN AUGUST OF 1982?

A. RIGHT.

Q. DID ANYTHING HAPPEN ON AUGUST 25, 1982? DID YOU HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS?

A. NO

Q. DID YOU SEE HIM ON THAT DATE?

A. NO.

Q. ON AUGUST 25, 1982, DID SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS ROB YOU OR TAKE ANYTHING FROM YOU?

A. HE TOOK NOTHING FROM ME.

Q. DID YOU SEE SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS ON AUGUST 25, 1982?

A. NO, I DIDN’T

Q. SO, IF YOU DIDN’T SEE HIM ON THAT DATE, OF COURSE, HE COULD HAVE PRODUCED A WEAPON OR THREATENED YOU IN ANY WAY?

A. NO

Q. WERE YOU CALLED AS A WITNESS AT THE TRIAL OF COMMONWEALTH VERSUS PORTIE ROBERTSON?

A. YES.

Q. YOU WERE A WITNESS AT THAT TRAIL--

A. OH, NO, NO.

Q. DURING THE TRAIL, WHICH WAS IN MARCH THROUGH MAY OF 1983, WHERE WERE YOU AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME?

A. CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA.

Q. WERE YOU RESIDING THERE?

A. YEAH, FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

Q. DID ANYONE CONTACT YOU AT ANYTIME TO TESTIFY AS A WITNESS AT THE TRIAL OF MR PORTIE ROBERTSON?

A. NO

Q. WERE YOU EVER CONTACTED BY ANYBODY, EITHER MR ROBERTSON, HIS TRAIL ATTORNEY OR AN INVESTIGATOR WORING ON BEHALF OF MR ROBERSTON, TO TESTIFY AT HIS TRAIL?

A. NO.

Q. WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU HAD ANY CONTACT BY ANYONE ON BEHALF OF MR. ROBERTSON?

A. WHEN I CAME BACK FROM CHARLOTTER, NORTH CAROLINA.

Q. WHEN WAS THAT?

A. I CAN’T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE.

MR STRUTIN: I WOULD ASK THAT THE FOLLOWING NOTARIZED STATEMENT OF ERNEST WRIGHT BE MARED AS EHD. 3.

(WHEREUPON, STATEMENT OF ERNEST WRIGHT WAS MARKED EHD. 3. FOR IDENTIFCATION)

THE COURT CRIER: SO MARKED, YOUR HONOR.

MR STRUTIN: COULD THE STATEMENT BE SHOWN TO THE WITNESS.

(SHOWN TO THE WITNESS BY MR STRUTIN)

Q. MR. WRIGHT, CAN YOU INDETIFY THAT SIGNATURE ON THAT STATEMENT?

A. THAT’S MINE.

Q. DO YOU RECALL EXECUTING THAT AFFIDAVIT?

A. YEAH.

Q. DO YOU RECALL WHO PREPARED THAT STATEMENT?

A. YOU DID.

Q. WHO PROVIDED THE INFORMATION TO ME TO PREPARE THE AFFIDAVIT?

A. I DID.

Q. WA THAT, AS THE STATEMENT INDICATES, PREPARED ON DECEMBER 17TH, 1993; IS THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR RECOLLECTION?

A. YEAH

Q. HOW IS IT THAT APPEARED IN MY OFFICE TO BE INTERVIEWED AND TO EXECUTE THE STATEMENT?

A. I BELIEVE I WAS CONTACTED BY YOU.

Q. WERE ANY THREATS OF FORCE USED AGAINST YOU OR TOWARDS YOU TO GET YOU TO GO TO MY OFFICE TO BE INTERVIEWED?

A. NO.

MR STRUTIN: JUDGE, CAN I HAVE A SECOND?

THE COURT: SURE.

(OFF THE RECORD DISCUSSION BETWEEN DEFENCE COUNSEL AND DEFENDANT)

 

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BY MR. STRUTIN:

Q. SIR, YOU INDICATED THAT YOU HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE ALLEGATION THAT YOU HAD BEEN ROBBED BY SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS. WHEN DID YOU FIRST LEARN ABOUT THAT--

A. WHEN I CAME BACK FROM CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA.

Q. YOU INDICATED YOU WERE NOT SURE OF EXACTLY WHEN THAT WAS?

A. NO

Q. IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR STATEMENT BRIEFLY, THE SECOND TO THE LAST SENTENCE, WHICH INDICATES, “I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT WILLIAMS HAD ROBBED ME IN FEBURARY OF 1983--

A. I REMEMBER I CAM BACK THE DAY AFTER MY BIRTHDAY, VFEBURARY 5TH.

Q. HOW IS IT THAT YOU LEARNED THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ALLEGATION THAT YOU HAD BEEN ROBBED OF SOMETHING BY HIM?

A. WELL, A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT I GREW UP WITH IN THAT AREA CAME TO ME WITH IT.

MR STRUTIN: MR. WHITE, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.

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CROSS-EXAMINATION:

BY MR. KING:

Q. MR. WRIGHT, WERE YOU AT ONE TIME KNOWN AS FAT ERNEST?

A. YES, FAT ERNEST.

Q. DID YOU KNOW TWO HOUSING POLICE OFFOCERS, OFFICER HARPER AND OFFICER WILLIAMS THAT THEY CALL THE BLUES BROTHERS?

A. YESM I KNEW BOTH OF THEM.

Q. BAC IN AUGUST OF 1992, DID YOU EVEN LIVE IN PHILADEELPHIA?

A. YES.

Q. WHERE DID YOU LIVE?

A. 1012 A-OLIVE PLACE.

Q. IN AUGUST OF 1992, IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT YOU AT NO TIME ENGAGED IN THE SALE OF NARCOTICS?

MR STRUTIN: OBJECTION, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK MR KINGS MEANS 1982 NOT 1992.

Q. IN 1982, WERE YOU IN ANY WAY INVOLVED IN THE SALE OF NARCOTICS?

A. YOU MEAN HAVE I BEEN ARRESTED FOR NARCOTICS IN 1982?

Q. MY QUESTION WAS, WERE YOU INVOLVED IN THE SALE OF NARCOTICS?

A. NO.

Q. ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

A. YEAH, I’M SURE.

MR STRUTIN: JUDGE, I’M GOING TO LODGE MY OBJECTION TO ANY TESTIMONY CONCERNING DRUG DEALING OR DRUG USE.

THE COURT: ON WHAT GROUNDS?

MR STRUTIN: AS TO RELEVANCY. FIRST OF ALL, IT DOESN’T FIT IN. ITS DOESN’T CONSTITUTE CRIMEN FALSO NECESSARY TO IMPEACH.

THE COURT: THE FACT PATTERN OF THE TESTIMONY AT THE TRIAL DOES INVOLVE THAT ACTIVITY AND THAT’S WHERE THE AREA OF RELEVANT TESTIMONY, WHICH HIS TESTIMONY IS NOW BEING USED TO IMPEACH, FITS IN, SO I’LL OVERRULE YOUR OBJECTION. IT IS RELEVANT TO THE TRIAL ISSUES. THAT WHY YOU’RE PUTTING HIM ON.

BY MR. KING:

Q. IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY, MR WRIGHT, THAT BACK IN AUGUST OF 1982, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE SALE OF NARCOTICS OUT OF THE RICHARD ALLEN HOUSING PROJECTS?

A. THAT’S RIGHT.

Q. WHEN DID YOU GO TO NORTH CAROLINA?

A. I DON’T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE.

Q. WAS IT AFTER THE SHOOTING IN THE PROJECTS WHEREIN TWO PEOPLE WHERE KILLED AND SIX WOUNDED?

A. YEAH.

Q. HOW SOON AFTER THE SHOOTING DID YOU GO TO NORTH CAROLINA?

A. I JUST TOLD YOU, I DON’T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE.
THE COURT: WAS IT TWO OR THREE PEOPLE SHOT?

MR KING: TWO PEOPLE KILLED, SIX WOUNDED.

BY MR, KING:

Q. BUT, YOU DO RECALL THAT IT WAS AFTER THE SHOOTING , RIGHT?

A. YEAH.

Q. NOW, WHEN DID YOU FIRST FIND OUT THAT THERE HAD BEEN AN ARREST IN THIS CASE OF DAMON JONES, PORTIE ROBERTSON AND ISAIAH GIVENS?

A. I FOUND OUT WHEN I CAM E BACK.

Q. ACCORDING TO YOUR AFFIDAVIT, YOU CAME BACK IN FEBURARY. DO YOU RECALL THAT MR JONES AND MR GIVENS AND MR ROBERTSON WERE TRIED DURNING THE MONTH OF MARCH OF THE SAME YEAR THAT YOU CAME BACK TO PHILADELPHIA?

A. YEAH, I KNOW ABOUT THAT.

Q. DID YOU EVER APPROACH ANYONE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS PARTICULAR AFFIDAVIT?

A. NO. I DIDN’T

Q. WHY DIDN’T YOU?

A. BECAUSE THAT AIN’T HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, THAT’S WHY.

Q. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IS PEOPLE ON THE STREET, TWO PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND SIX WERE WOUNDED BECAUSE YOU GOT ROBBED, THAT DIDN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU?

A. NOBODY TO CAME TO ME WITH IT.

Q. NOW, YOU WERE IN TOWN DURNING THE WHOLE COURSE OF THIS TRAIL, WERE YOU NOT?

A. NO, I WAS NOT, BECAUSE I WAS INCARCERATED THAT SAME YEAR IN 1985.

Q. WHAT WERE YOU INCARCERATED FOR?

A. NARCOTICS.

Q. WAS IT A STATE NARCOTICS CHARGE?

A. NO, IT WAS A FEDERAL.

Q. HOW MUCH TIME DID YOU DO?

THE WITNESS: DO I HAVE TO ANSWER THAT, JUDGE?

THE COURT: YES.

THE WITNESS: SIX YEARS.

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.

BY MR. KING

Q. THAT’S WHEN THE FEDS CAME TO RICHARD ALLEN AND KNOCKED UP MOST OF THE KNOWN DRUG DEALERS AND YOUR NAME WAS MENTIONED AS BEING THE PROMINENT--

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A. I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN PROMINENCE.

Q. YOUR NAME WAS RIGHT OUT FRONT THERE AS ONE OF THE MAIN SELLERS OF DRUGS IN RICHARD ALLEN.

A. NO, I WASN’T NO MAIN SELLER.

Q. WHO DID YOU WORK FOR?

MR STRUTIN: JUDGE, AGAIN, IF I CAN LODGE MY OBJECTION TO THAT TESTIMONY, I UNDERSTAND THE COURT’S RULING WITH REGARD TO DRUG DEALING, BUT THE STANDARD DRUG DEALERS OR SUPPLIERS OR DISTRIBUTORS THAT MR. WRIGHT MAY HAVE KNOWN OR HAD CONTACT WITH--

THE COURT: IT’S THE THEORY THAT HE WAS ONE OF THE SELLERS FOR THE THREE DEFENDANTS IN THE CASE. AGAIN, YOU’RE OVERRULED.

THE WITNESS: I WASN’T SELLING FOR NOBODY.

BT MR. KING:

Q. WHAT WERE THE GUIDELINES THAT THE FEDS USED WHEN THEY SENTENCED YOU TO SIX YEARS?

A. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THE GUIDELINESS?

Q. HOW MUCH WERE YOU FOUND GUILTY OF SELLING OR HOW MUCH DID YOU PLEAD GULITY TO SELLING?

A. EIGHT BAGS.

Q. OF?

A. HEROIN.

Q. WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS LOCKED UP WITH YOU A PERSON KNOWN AS CADILLAC WILLIE?

MR STRUTIN: JUDEG--

THE WITNESS: I DON’T EVEN KNOW A WILLIE. I DON’T KNOW WHO YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.

MR STRUTIN: CAN I HAVE A CONTINUING OBJECTION TO THIS?

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT, FINE.

BY MR STRUTIN:

Q. HOW, IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT YOU GAVE THIS AFFIDAVIT AFTER YOU WERE RELEASED FROM FEDERAL PRISON FOR SELLING DRUUGS?

A. CORRECT.

Q. YOU DID SIX YEARS. ARE YOU ON ANY KIND OF PROBATION RIGHT NOW?

A. I AM ON PAROLE.

Q. HOW MANY YEARS OF PAROLE ARE YOU ON?

A. I GOT UNTIL ‘99’.

Q. AND WHEN DID YOU FIRST START SERVING YOUR SENTENCE FOR FEDERAL DRUG DEALING?

A. I THINK IT WAS APRIL, 1985.

Q. WHEN WERE YOU ARRESTED INITIALLY FOR SELLING DRUGS IN THE PROJECTS?

A. APRIL OF 1985.

Q. DID YOU GO TO TRIAL OR PLEAD GUILTY?

A. I WENT TO TRAIL.

Q. WHERE WERE YOU INCARCERATED?

A. ROCHESTER, MINNESOTA.

Q. WHILE INCARCERATED IN ROCHESTER, MINNESOTA, WERE YOU IN CONTACT WITH ANY OF THE DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE?

A. NO, I WASN’T.

Q. WHEN WERE YOU CONTACTED BY ANYONE REPRESENTING THE DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE?

A. I THINK IT WAS ‘93’.

Q. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU WERE CONTACTED?

\A. AT MY MOTHER’S HOUSE.

Q. ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON YOUR FEDERAL PAROLE AS TO WHAT YOU CAN DO OR CAN’T DO?

A. WELL, I CAN’T LEAVE THE STATE UNLESS I GOT IN CONTACT WITH THEM

Q. WHAT ABOUT ASSOCIATING WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE?

A. YEAH, THAT TOO.

Q. ASSOCIATING WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE SALE OF DRUGS?

A. WELL, ANY CRIME, REALLY.

Q. JUST ONE FINAL SET QUESTIONS, MR. WRIGHT. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN BACK IN PHILADELPHIA SINCE YOUR RELEASE FROM FEDERAL CUSTODY?

A. SEVEN YEARS.

Q. DID YOU EVER FIND OUT AFTER THIS TRIAL AND BEFORE YOU GAVE THIS AFFIDAVIT THAT SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED TO SYLVESTOR WILLIAMS AND HE WAS NOW DEAD?

A. I FOUND THAT OUT, I HEARD THAT WILLIE WAS IN JAIL.

MR KING: THAN YOU, SIR.

MR STRUTIN: JUST ONE QUESTION.

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REDIRECT EXAMINATION:

BY MR STRUTIN:

Q. MR. WRIGHT, IN AUGUST OF 1982, DID YOU NOW PORTIE ROBERTSON, MY CLIENT?

A. NO, I JUST SEEN HIM AROUND, YOU KNOW.

Q. WERE YOU A FRIEND OF HIS?

A. NOT REALLY, YOU KNOWHOW YOU JUST SEE CERTAIN PEOPLE COME THROUGH, YOU STAND AROUND AND TALK.

Q. DID YOU HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM ALL, WHETHER IT BE FRIENDS OR BUSINESS?

A. NO, I JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, SEEN HIM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MR STRUTIN: MR. WRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.

MR. KING: I HAVE NOTHING ELSE, YOUR HONOR.